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I can't make any educated comment here myself as I haven't studied this issue. However, as others have mentioned here, Gal 3:28 is very convincing.
But the church that I used to attend has done some research in great detail, and I do in fact…
Hey Alec,
This is what I believe at this point, but study on your own. I believe that the prophecies of the book of Revelation have been fulfilled (except that the true church is always being added to). I do not think that we are in the "thousand ye…
Thanks for all of your answers but i was also wondering if the land really did become more fertile when they arrived? thats what i was always told but recently i have found sources that say that it has always been fertile and the claim that palestin…
My heart aches for the McCormacks. I am so sorry to read this and will be in prayer for them. May God's grace and peace fill them.
Revelation 20:10, "And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever."
I think this is a form of hyperbole to ex…
I think the beast is Nero and the false prophet is apostate Israel, as Israel was the only line of humanity considered God's prophet nation so to speak.
Hey Ron,
Well then, we atleast know that Nero, apostate Israel, and the devil experienced the l…
Revelation 20:14, "Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire." Am I reading this verse correctly when I say that the lake of fire is not a literal place, but that the lake of fire is another n…
Really enjoying your comments, Jason! Good 4 questions above, MindMeld! Was wondering anyone's take on this verse:
Revelation 20:10, "And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prop…
Great topic, Ron!!
As far as the eternal destination/existence of the nonelect, I am wondering about the following verses:
2 Thessalonians 1:6-10, "For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, and to give r…
Had to be an arminian preacher, didn't he..... :-)
Hope you had a great time golfing today! Who do you think is going to get cut tonight? Has to be Kris Allen. Anyways, look forward to your replies on this stuff!! :-)
Lori
I am not saying that I disagree with you and Heidi or with Derrell. I just have not found enough evidence to change my views totally as of yet. I don't consider isolated scriptures as evidence enough to hang my hat on it. The whole of scripture has…
Lori.....What if the Holy Spirit illuminates one truth to Sam and another truth to you and then yet another truth to me. How are we know which is the truth that we should believe?
Hey Kenny,
I believe that when it comes to all doctrine(s), there is…
Lori, I do not know if I could disagree with you more on your commentary of Mathew 23:1-12. Jesus was NOT addressing religous traditions per say, because traditions in and of them selves are not wrong. Jesus begins this discourse with the following:…
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- I became a follower of Jesus 10 years ago and since then, God has revealed the Doctrines of Grace to me and Preterism (know very little, but enough to know that there is no future second coming). I want to fellowship with other like minded believers, encourage one another, study the Word together, and grow together.
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Came out of the closet....
Major announcement! I just spent an hour or more talking with a friend of our oldest son about preterism and the doctrines of grace. I have never told anyone in person that I believe in preterism (other than Heidi and her son and my husband and 2 sons). She called her youth pastor to ask him a question about a verse and she told him that she was talking with me about preterism. Know what he said? That he had studied about it, but never met one!!! I told her to tell him he is welcome to come over… Continue
Posted on April 24, 2009 at 10:10pm — 17 Comments
In the beginning, was there only Adam and Eve??
This is from another thread, but would really love to hear some feedback on it.....
I really don't understand what exactly covenant creationalism is or isn't. What I do want to ask, is if anyone has ever seen this?? Here goes......
The Garden of Eden (Genesis 2), is real and physical, and a picture of the spiritual New Jerusalem. Look at the word "earth" throughout Genesis 1 and then see how it is replaced with the word "ground" in Genesis 2. Notice what days that the trees, animals, and man… Continue
I really don't understand what exactly covenant creationalism is or isn't. What I do want to ask, is if anyone has ever seen this?? Here goes......
The Garden of Eden (Genesis 2), is real and physical, and a picture of the spiritual New Jerusalem. Look at the word "earth" throughout Genesis 1 and then see how it is replaced with the word "ground" in Genesis 2. Notice what days that the trees, animals, and man… Continue
Posted on April 22, 2009 at 5:35pm — 92 Comments
Urgent prayer request for our son
I would appreciate your prayers for our oldest son, Boone. His primary care dr. diagnosed him with renal (kidney) insufficiency, yesterday. He is having a sonogram done on his kidneys today, a 24 hour urine test, and more blood work. He is almost 18 years old. We see a kidney specialist on April 28th and until then, won't know any answers. Waiting is very hard for me. This area in my life (health) has been a weakness since I was a little girl. I haven't learned how to surrender health issues to… Continue
Posted on April 10, 2009 at 1:00pm — 10 Comments
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- At 9:53pm on July 5, 2009,
Prabhu Das said… - Sister I’ve posted a Question “CHURCH NAME???” at blog post section. And I would like to know your comments, could you please….?
- At 1:35pm on May 17, 2009,
HeidiS said…
- Happy Belated Birthday!!!!!!
Love ya,
Heidi
- At 6:54pm on May 5, 2009,
Patrick said… - Lori, I remember you said you lived near Atlanta. Would you be willing to help set up a Southern Preterist Conference???
Let me know, Patrick
- At 9:58am on April 28, 2009,
Kim Watford said… - Hi Lori, too bad SGP wasn't around when I lived in Canton. We didn't know anyone who believed like us and it would have been nice to have other like-minded folks to fellowship with. I still make occasional trips back to Canton and Woodstock to buy my bread supplies. Herman was offered a job at the hospital in Cartersville but we had already made our move up here. When I travel down that way again, I would love to get together with you if you have time. My brother lives in Cartersville so I was planning on trying to visit with him for a while.
Blessings,
~ Kim ~
- At 8:29pm on April 24, 2009,
Patrick said…
- Hi Lori, I have changed my opinion on something and wanted to give you an update. On my website I try to interpret the book of Revelation using a different method which I call cross-linking. It sort of forces you to abandon looking at it from a preterist or futurist POV and use internal clues to interpret the order of the visions.
Anyhow...I was working on the interpretation of Ch12, the woman in the wilderness. I have now come to the conclusion that BOTH the resurrection of the OT saints & the martyrs (and well anyone dead in Christ) occured in 66/67 AD at the beginnnig of the tribulation. 70 AD was actually (1) the 'resurrection' of the wicked and their judgment & (2) the marriage of the Lamb & Bride. Also, the Bride in Christ was not the OC Saints...but NC, more specifically probably just the martyrs.
Again, I know this is probably only muddying the waters for you, and I apologize, but I wanted to update you since you had expressed an interest in this view.
Good luck in your quest for the truth!
Patrick
- At 10:08pm on April 22, 2009,
Patrick said…
- shoot...
I meant to say "that all living saints post 70AD go immediately to heaven AT THEIR DEATH..." sorry
- At 9:51pm on April 22, 2009,
Patrick said…
- Hi Lori, Just wanted to make sure you didn't have any more questions for me, and to clarify one point...
I wanted to make it clear that I believe, as does Dr. Birks, that all living saints post 70AD go immediately to heaven into the presence of God and the Lamb and receive their spiritual bodies. I didn't want you to think that I thought Martydom was the only way to get to heaven.
Basically the Martys from 66-70AD (the last trump) immediatley went to Heaven (without going to a holding area) and received their spiritual body. This was their "catching up" as 1 Thess 4:17 calls it.
John, in his letter the the 7 churches, also says that "those who are faithful unto death," & those that "overcome" would also go to Heaven (Rev 3:21) & receive their spriritual body (Rev 3:5). Therefore, like the martyrs, we are also "raptured" when we die. So in a way 1 Thess 4:17 applies to us, the living believers as well.
Hope I didn't confuse you anymore than I already have.
Patrick
- At 6:11pm on April 20, 2009,
Jessica Lynn said… - Thank you! :)
- At 12:31pm on April 17, 2009,
Derrell said… - yes, lets do!
- At 11:30am on April 13, 2009,
Pete said… - Thanks for the note, Lori. It's 3 am here and I have to go to work tomorrow (today) so I better get to bed! Look forward to reading your thoughts when I get back from work. I'm very greatful for your input and kindness. Cheers. Pete.
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